High waisted trousers for Masc frame

High waisted trousers for male sims, doesn't sound too complicated, does it? Well, it actually kinda is. See bottom of the post. But first, let's get the basic info you're here for out of the way...

Pants are snatched from this store outfit and then altered a bit.

So without further ado:

Teen Version

• Higher waisted and lower waisted version
• 2 Presets each, with ombre and plain mask.
• Found under Everyday, formal, career & outerwear
• All lods: 988 F 658 V / +- 500 F 350 V / +-250 F 200 V
• Fat, fit, thin Morphs

High waisted

Slightly-lower-high-waisted

Custom Thumbnails

Adult Version

• Will override the files from my original post (Simblr.cc / Tumblr)
• Higher waisted and lower waisted version
• 2 Presets each, with ombre and plain mask.
• Found under Everyday, formal, career & outerwear, enabled for maternity.
• All lods: 988 F 658 V / +- 500 F 350 V / +-250 F 200 V
• Fat, fit, thin, preg Morphs.
• Redone weights.
• Cleaned up morphs.
• Made the booty nicer.
• Changed the bonedeltas for the pregnant morph with bonedelta editor, so there will be no/less clipping with the belly in animations.

High waisted

Slightly-lower-high-waisted

Booty & preg morphs

The original presets & custom thumbnails

"What do I use these with?"

They will work with:

• Very cropped tops.
• Tops whose waist is texture only/painted on. You might need to change their overlay priority to 5 in S3PE (ask me for details how if necessary), or alternatively, actual naked torso with a texture-only accessory top. Texture-only Accessory tops will be, or should be, usually be enabled for teen-elder.
• Slightly lower waisted version will work with most tops that are called "cropped" minus some very minor clipping
• Both will generally work with very wide/bulky tops, that aren't too long (the nice booty might clip otherwise)
• Items it is combined with in the pictures:
• Cropped Hoodie for teenagers is on the way, adult version here
• Cropped Tee for teenagers is on the way, adult version here (Version 1, most cropped)
• The Female to male Supernatural bustier jacket is on the way for teen & adult.
• The sleeveless Turtleneck for teens is by Aya here, however it had some issues in the materials (Very, very, very shiny in dark colors) so I made a fix which is here
• Lace Turtleneck is converted-by-me Eros by Joliebean Here. Meshed version is adults only right now, Accessory version (dark green in morph pics) is Teen-elder.

The creation ramble

Basically, making pants like this that by definition will overlap with whatever top, is a delicate balance between aesthetic (close to the body) and no clipping (requires great bones or further from the body)

I also tried a version where they were texture-only above the traditional seam, but unless I gave the pants absolutely no normal map, there was still a visible seamline. I also didn't like how painted on/jegging-like the details looked.

After learning you can import rigs in blender with geom tools to connect to your geom, and literally see the shape change as you change the weights, I started abusing that possibility.

Due to weights transferring improperly due to the inner tights intersecting, meaning I had to repaint the whole crotch when I did between the slightly differently meshed versions, I also had to repaint the thighs & waist of all 4 versions. But, five days with several 8-hour sessions repainting until 2 am later, I am here: Note that I didn't check like 15 different extreme animations and there might still be some clipping with certain very active animations, particularly in extreme morphs. But as you can tell I am a huge perfectionist and I am happy

Credits & tools used

• GIANT thanks to Virtual-Hugs for pointing out to me you can import a rig, and doing some end-stage testing & figuring out the why of something happening after I had given up hope on fixing that, and generally keeping me sane.
• Elvgreen for some additional encouragement/rambles between us perfectionists
• The creators of Blender, S3PE, Cmar (RIP) for Meshtoolkit, and to a degree TSRW even though I only used you for the presets as you kept ruining the bones (the last two days I always just replaced the bones & morphs with s3pe and meshtoolkit straight to the packagefile)